I'm seeking information concerning established FEMA concentration camp areas. I'm told I live in one of Michigan's concentration camp "hubs" but would like to get confirmation about this. If anyone is aware of a website or map that contains current information, please share it. Thanks.
Hi Amy,
Please visit http://www.abovetopsecret.com and http://www.blackvault.com
There is a lot of conspiracy info in each site, some true perhaps, some pretty left field, but each of these sites seems to have good information that seems credible.
Note, that Philip Hoag indicates that the USDA has the charter to collect guns during a national crisis - it is no accident. Guns for food.
I got info. from a website once which listed all the FEMA concentration camps sites throughout the U.S.-- Two of several areas listed for our state as being concentration camps I knew for certain simply were not. I had to write the list owners and tell them to get their information first-hand and make sure they knew what they were talking about before they published such information. The reason I was irritated is that one site they listed was a huge landfill dump site. I had been there inside the gates people said were to keep people locked in. I had to go and see if for myself when many people kept claiming it was a concentration camp. It only has fencing on three sides of the site to catch the flying debris. There are piles of garbage and huge backhoes scooping dirt over it. No barracks, and no barbwire fences to keep people in.
The other site was suppose to be near our town,and the place of a former Japanese internment camp. There is nothing there but a few new homes built on the site, and a lot of junk and old cement pads where buildings use to stand, and a lot of sagebrush blowing in the wind. Hardly an internment camp--no fences or anything like unto it.
There is probably some truth to what people are saying abou the camps, but there's a lot of boloney and info. to simply scare people. Be careful what you believe. See it for yourself, if you can, before believing anything.
Wary
Concentration Camps (Again)
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When I have a few spare moments, I like to mess with people on the net, especially those I know who are passing along fear-mongering bullshit.
Today's news reagrding the AMTRAK repair facility here in Indy brought to mind an e-mail exchange I had with someone at NEWSWATCH, a dedicated anti-Illimuniati/NWO/Mason and so-called, Christian far right patriot website.
We know that people actually believe this crap, as they do "chemtrails." From this, it seems the big scare started as far back as 1994.
Here's today's news reagarding the Beech Grove, IN "Crematoria":
www.starnews.com/article....ail08.html
Following is a copy of the exchange I had with "Robert" of Newswatch, and my last e-mail went unanswered. For entertainment purposes-
www.newswatchmagazine.org/index2.htm
name : Deborah Phalen
email : D_PHALEN@
address :
city : Plainfield
state : IN
zip : 46168
subject : David Smith Editorial dated 8/24/01
message : Dear Mr. Smith:
As a man of God, I know you wouldn't print or publish anything but what you
believe to be the truth.
Would you kindly tell me what this paragraph from your 8/24/01 editorial
means exactly and why you say this? What or whom exactly is your source
verifying these 2 statements?
>>Now, something very secretively is going on in Peebles, Ohio. This place is
"blacked out" from satellite surveillance. Aircraft cannot fly over it. It
has been declared a no fly zone. WHY? There is no military base there. Is
this preparation for a concentration camp? Why has Beech Grove, Indiana's
old Amtrak station been restored with new natural gas lines and $6 million
lately to make it AIR TIGHT!!!<<<
Thank you in advance and I hope to hear from you soon.
Yours truley,
Deborah Phalen
----- Original Message -----
From: Newswatch Magazine
To: D_PHALEN@
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:25 PM
Subject: RE: Newswatch Magazine Feedback
Hello. The source is a very popular, respected local Television station in
the area. One which also wants David to come there and investigate it.
Robert
Newswatch
-----Original Message-----
From: D. Phalen
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:36 PM
To: Newswatch Magazine
Subject: Re: Newswatch Magazine Feedback
Which area? Peebles Ohio or Beech Grove, Indiana and which Television station? Thanks! Deb
----- Original Message -----
From: Newswatch Magazine
To: D. Phalen
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: Newswatch Magazine Feedback
If my memory serves me right, it's the Fox station around the area of Peebles, Ohio. But don't quote me on that. More details will follow in the future....
-----Original Message-----
From: D. Phalen
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:57 PM
To: Newswatch Magazine
Subject: Re: Newswatch Magazine Feedback
And what about the AMTRAK facility in Beech Grove, Indiana? I heard that FEMA, which I found odd, paid $6 million dollars for renovations that are described in that paragraph in your article also. Again, who is the source and how can this be confirmed? I am concerned because both location are relatively close to where I live. Thanks. Deb
----- Original Message -----
From: Newswatch Magazine
To: D. Phalen
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: Newswatch Magazine Feedback
You'll hear more updates in the future.
Robert
Newswatch
How soon in the future? This coming week? WIll someone be in your office tomorrow Monday who can answer my questions? Thanks. Deb
The following article is typical of the far-right militia type websites. The person referred to as MR. SEA, by description has to be Al Cuppet.
w3f.com/patriots/warning.html
"The infrastructure is set up. There are at least 130 concentration
camps—quietly modified facilities which have sprung up and continue
to spring up across the country, seemingly devoid of activity, yet
requiring strange accoutrements such as barbed wire-topped fencing
(with the tops turned inward) and helicopter wind socks. Most have
good logistical supportability, with major highways and railroad
transport facilities adjacent to the sites.
"These facilities, many in remote areas across our country, are
set up to become concentration/detention camps, complete with gas
chambers, for resisters and dissidents. Generally speaking, they’re
set up for dissenters who will not go along with the New World Order.
The ‘resisters’ are gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons;
the ‘dissidents’ are Christians, Patriots and Constitutionalists.
These camps are set up. I’ve seen many of them.
"On August 6, 1994, I toured the Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility
at Beech Grove, Indianapolis, Indiana. There are at least ten
maintenance barns at this facility, covering 129 acres, with two
separate fences with the tops leaning inward. The windows of several
buildings have been bricked up. Hence, you have three levels of
security for Amtrak repair barns!
"There are three helicopter 25-knot aviation wind socks (which
aren’t the correct ones to use for chemical spills which require
10-knot wind socks). There are high security NSA-style people
turnstiles, and high intensity/security lighting for 24-hour
operation. The box car (gas chamber) building fence is marked
with special ‘RED/BLUE Zone’ signs [visible in the photo ]. This
corresponds to the ‘mission’ of the RED/BLUE Lists which surfaced
in June and July of 1996.
"Under martial law, this will become a death camp. They’re only
going to handle category one and two (RED and BLUE) people there.
This box car facility will be used for execution.
"One of the barns is large enough to put four box cars into. There
are powered vents on the top of the barn to vent the gas out of
the building after the box cars have been fumigated. All of the
buildings have newly installed six-inch gas pipes and furnaces
installed in all ‘railroad barns.’
"Since the photo [below] was taken in August 1994, FEMA has
allocated $6 million to make the walls and roofs of the buildings
‘airtight’ (see article below). Under martial law, this facility
could be immediately used as an SS-style ‘termination’ gas chamber.
"On January 27, 1995, The Indianapolis News ran an article titled,
‘Amtrak Lays off 212 at Beech Grove: 170 Lose Jobs at Maintenance
Center Today.’ Why perform $6 million worth of renovations, and
then lay off 212 people? Because the people doing the final
executions will not be Americans. Thus, the ‘slots’ of the 212
will be filled with non-Americans.
"They’ll hire foreigners for this ‘cappo’ task. Cappo (‘chief’
in Italian) was the title of the trustee prisoners who actually
killed many Jews for the SS butchers at Dachau, and at other
Nazi crematoria across Europe.
"The news article also said, ‘ . . . hopes the yard may be able
to solicit work repairing private train cars, and perhaps subway
cars from Washington, DC, or other urban areas.’ The repairing
of private trains is a dead giveaway to death cars!
"The article went on to say, ‘Late last year, Congress ordered
Amtrak to spend at least $5.9 million patching holes in the roof
and fixing masonry on the walls of the giant machine sheds at
Beech Grove.’ These buildings have been ‘sealed.’ They’re airtight.
The facility is constructed to allow gas to be blown into all the
buildings via the newly installed, two-story, hot air heating
furnaces."
Next, Mr. Sea elaborated on the two categories the RED and BLUE
Lists and what they mean: "The RED List is for pick-up and
execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are
initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but at a later
date within six weeks of martial law declaration. There are no
‘re-education’ plans for either category just execution.
"When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they’ll take you from
your home at night probably around 4 a.m. and put you in a black
van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an
intermediate point. There, you’ll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger
CH-47 Chinook helicopter all black, unmarked and illegally operating
under the Treaty on Open Skies.
"Then they’ll fly you to one of 38 cities where you’ll board a
747, 737, or 727. "You may be taken straight to a temporary
detention facility. When you’re RED listed, you’ll be taken to
a red camp. Then you’ll be executed.
I dont spend a lot of time on the camps. I do know they will eventually come, if history serves as any basis, but it's useless dwelling on it in my opinion.
They can be built, moved, and concealed rather easily (your tax dollars at work !).
Just take care of your shopping list and "to do" list. God know's just that is tough enough while trying to keep a job and juggling bills, and taxes.
Same for the chemtrails. Im not totally convinced one way or the either till I see some hard data on analysis.
But I can say we all need to improve our plans and keep focused on those. Right now, there is nothing we can do really about it so put your efforts to good use.
Really, we should learn more about grain mills, home canning, and gardening.
I enjoy all the intriguing discussions, but I hope there can be more hands on type stuff about getting back to the land and living ala 1800's no, strike that, 1300's.
It's o.k. to be opinionated, but when you focus on what's 'bullshit', that's what you get... bullshit. There is hard evidence from independent labs on toxic chemicals and bio-agents falling from the sky... all you have to do is read the newspapers, then remember what you've read. I don't know about spray rigs on aircraft, but toxic chemicals have been put into jet fuel in recent years for no good reason. T.E.Bearden, a brilliant scientist, said HAARP technology can change harmless microbes into deadly microbes. HAARP is not rumor... it's a fact. To think that there is no plan to eliminate a large percentage of the Earth's population by the global elite is nothing but ignorance. Cyrus Vance wrote Global 2000 which spells out the plan in detail. You can read a copy from most public libraries. There is no good reason to focus on disinformation, because it is routinely combined with the facts to mislead people, the majority of which are intellectually lazy, and they won't take the time to do their own thinking, so they end up discounting the facts along with the lies.
There are enough warning signs to move us toward preparation, but there may not be time to waste on arguing.